Because financial success in construction isn't about making more money. It's about controlling the money you already make. So we're talking about in this episode, five simple things that you can change now that will help your financial situation as a contractor. So let's dig into it right now. All right, here we go. Number one, we want to talk about separate bank accounts. Why does that matter? Well, it matters because it's hard to know where your money is going. Like, how do you know, you know, if I put this $10,000 deposit in there, how do I get to it? Well, I mean, where did it go? Where is that money being used for? Is it you put it into a normal account where you pay all your bills out of it? You have one simple account that is all about your money. No, we don't want to do that, right? We want to make sure that we have all of our money spoken for in different accounts. And the way we do that is by setting up separate bank accounts. Now, one of the most, this is fundamentally, if you only do one thing, this is fundamentally the most important thing I ever did in my business for myself to help keep my sanity. And that is you need to have a separate bank account. for customer deposits. Because here's exactly what happens. You get a deposit from a customer. Let's say it's $20,000 for a big job. What do you do with that money? You go deposit into your one bank account that you have to run your entire business out of. So you put that $20,000 in there. Maybe you have $30,000 from other jobs, or you've collected invoices or whatever it might be. So now you have like $50,000 in your bank account. and it looks like you have a lot of money in there. Well, you know, like, well, some of this is for jobs, you know, it's for deposits. So I can't go spend that money right now. And so, but you don't really know how much of that money is for deposits. You have $30,000 in there already, but 20,000 of that is for bills that haven't even been invoiced to you yet. You're getting your Lowe's bill or your local lumberyard bill 30 days later, or you still haven't gotten your subcontractor bill from two weeks ago. This money is already spoken for. So really, if you take all of the money that is spoken for and only what's left in that account of that $50,000, maybe $7,000 of that is, let's call it profit. But then you have to pay all your expenses. Now you got to pay your electricity bill, your cell phone bill, your internet bill, your gas, right? So really the $7,000 left over, now you only have maybe $2,000 or $3,000 left over. That's actually pure profit for you. It's too hard to run a business out of one bank account. Now there are softwares and things you can do that basically virtually create separate accounts, but you still have to have the discipline. When you have a virtual software that says, here's five bank accounts, here's the money that's in each account, allocated for different things, but then you go to your bank account and it's just one lump sum. It's very easy to be tempted to go take money out of there to go buy a tool or maybe pay yourself a little bonus or whatever it might be. So the way you avoid that is by having separate bank accounts. Does that mean you have to go to the bank and open up separate accounts? Yes. I don't care if they're checking accounts or savings accounts. It really doesn't matter. But yes, you're going to have multiple bank accounts. Now, if you're at a bank where they charge you money for each account, well, you can either pay that money if it's not very much, or you can go to a different bank, right? Like, well, Brett, you know, I've been at this bank for 20 years. Listen to yourself talk for a second. If there's something you can do to make your business better, more profitable, easier to run, But you're caught on this idea of like, well, I've been here for 20 years. I don't want to change. That's just stupidity, guys. You do the things you need to do in your business in order to be successful. Not the things that you want to do or like to do. The things you need to do. So if your bank's charging you $50 a month for every account, well, you can either pay $250 a month or you can go to a different bank. Now, for me, I would probably go to a different bank, right? If that was the case. So maybe you can have split accounts. You can keep your other bank. for your personal and stuff, but then get one for your business. Whatever's going to be easiest for you. We get these soundtracks in our heads stuck where we have to do it this way. The thought of doing something different is just, it's just too much to think about, Brad. I got to do it the way I've always done it. Well, if you keep doing things the way you've always done it, you're going to keep getting the same results you've always gotten. So if you want a different result, I don't know, maybe try something different. It's just an idea. Okay. Why do you, I don't know why you guys get me so fired up on these. I don't know. Maybe I'm too passionate. Maybe I care too much. I don't know what it is. So listen, separate bank accounts, right? Most contractors run everything through one account. That creates confusion. It creates emotional spending. Oh, I got $50,000 in that account. Man, I can go buy that new gun I wanted. I can go buy that new boat I wanted, whatever it is. You don't take in consideration all these other things. So you need to have separate bank accounts. You need to have one account for operating expenses. Now, a lot of this is based on the book Profit First. Accounting by Mike Michalowicz. It's a great book. I highly recommend you get it. It's a different type of accounting methodology. At the end of the day, you're still paying bills and all that stuff. It doesn't really change your actual accounting. It just changes the way you go about how you move your money around. One of the best concepts of that is you pay yourself first. You know, most companies are like, I get $200,000, I got to pay, you know, $150,000 worth of expenses. That leaves $50,000 left for me. Well, profit first is I want to pay myself $100,000. I only have $250,000, but I have, you know, another $100,000 worth of bills, or I'm sorry, $150,000 worth of bills. I pay myself first the $100,000, and then I have to figure out how to pay the rest of the bills, whether that's through reducing, you know, expenses or overhead. or making more money per job, right? Like I have to solve to pay my bills problem. I don't solve by not paying myself enough problem, which is what most 99% of us do. I didn't make enough money this month, so I can't pay myself. That's the wrong mentality. You pay yourself first, and then it forces you to have to run a business that's actually profitable. It's too easy to do. It's like, ah, we had a bad month. I'm not going to pay myself. That's too easy. It lets you off the hook too easy. If you're forced to have to figure out how to pay bills, you'll start getting a little bit smarter with your money, right? How you run your business, I mean. So here's the accounts you're going to have. You're going to have an operating expenses account. That's what you pay your bills out of. You're going to have a payroll account to pay all your employees or yourself. You're going to have a customer deposit account to put the money into. You're going to have a taxes account where you set aside money to pay your taxes. It can be payroll taxes or it can be corporate taxes, whatever, but just taxes. And then you can have additional accounts for whatever. One can be owner pay separately, or it could be owner bonuses. You can also have accounts set up to pay for future expenses. You know, if I know I got to buy a new vehicle in the next two years, I might start putting a percentage of that in that account each month so that within two years, you know, I have 20,30, $40,000 saved up to buy that vehicle. So I don't have to go in debt. So you're just like, you know, forecasting expenses and then putting a percentage of that each pay, you know, each time into your account. Now I'm not going to go into the profit first, the entire process, but you basically take all your money. When you have a deposit, you put it into your operating expense. I'm sorry. You should have a separate income account. I didn't mention this. That's what all the money goes into your income account. And then you disperse it across the other accounts. It's based on a percentage of your expenses. Again, I'm not going to get into this. Go read the book profit first. accounting. Do not get the profit first accounting for contractors. I know that sounds counterintuitive, but the original book is where most of the value is. Once you've read that book, then you can go read the contractor version by Sean Van Dyke, a different author. But the one by Mike McAllister is the one you want to read first. Okay. So you set that all up, but the, the, the separate thing that's not in that book is the customer deposit account. So here's how this, why this matters. You get that $20,000 deposit, you put it into the customer deposit account. Why? Because it's not your money. None of that is your money. You're just holding it for someone. You don't get to spend that money for you. The money goes into a separate account. You're not allowed to touch it until you have to buy materials or pay for subcontractors or whatever. Until you have an actual expense that you need to pay for that job, then you go into that account and you take the money you need out of it. transfer it to your OPEX account, and then pay the bill. Okay? Brad, it seems like a lot of work. It is. It's not a lot of work. It's more work. But it keeps everything so clean. Because I would always spend money. You know, you get that $20,000 deposit, you deposit it, you pay some bills, and then you go and you spend $7,000 of that $20,000 that's for that job. And then so you only have $13,000 left of the deposit. Well, then you get $25,000 worth of bills between the vendor and subs and everything. And now you're in the hole, right? You may have money in your account to pay for it, but from a money transaction perspective, you have more money going out for that job than you have money coming in. And what a lot of you guys do is you get your profits on the very last check, your invoice, right? So, and if you're doing like a 50% down,50%. When the job's over, terrible. Stop doing that. The final invoice should never be more than 10% ever. Why? Because 10% should be pure profit, right? It should be 100% profit for you. All of your other bills have been paid. All the vendors, all the subs, everything has been paid by the time you get to your final invoice. And so the last 10% is just profit for you. If you do a 50-50, you're collecting 50% upfront, which is great. It's a great start. But then halfway through the project or two thirds through the project, you have ran out of that $20,000. And now you're funding the money yourself until you get that final check. And if the final check is 30,40,50%, and they're going to start screwing around with you and like, oh, we don't like this. You need to change this. I had one client, I had a nightmare client. They had to redo the kitchen doors and cabinets like five times. And it was never good enough. And this went on for like four months. And the client was holding up like $90,000 worth of money. Right. And, you know, a big portion of that 90,000 was to people that he owed money to. So he's in the hole waiting to solve this problem before he gets paid. It's a terrible place to be in. You want to talk about stress? You've created your own stress by trying to be, quote, nice and, you know, give people a 50% when they're done. And if you hear anyone on the, in the internet or anywhere saying, if you can't pay until the job's over, you don't click the a hundred percent, you shouldn't be in business. They are morons. Okay. Just, I'm just telling you right now, I'll tell them to their face. They are complete morons. Even if you had, you know, half a million dollars cash sitting in the bank and you could do that by no means would you ever, you know, should you do that? It's just stupid business. Why would you want to be a hundred percent leveraged against the client? who on a whim, on an emotional reaction, can just withhold that money. I don't care if you're really good at what you do, if you have the best clients in the world. It's just not very smart. And so the morons out there want to use that as a leverage. Some of them use it in marketing to their clients, whatever. It's a marketing gimmick. But you should never fund the entire cost of the project yourself. If you do it right and you have your payment schedule set up correctly, you will never be in a negative balance. In other words, you're always collecting money up front and then paying out from that money you collected. You collect a $20,000 deposit. You pay out $15,000 worth of expenses. You get to the next milestone. You collect another, you know, whatever it is, $10,000 payment. And then from that $10,000, you pay out $9,000. And then you get to the next milestone and so on and so on. And so the whole project, the customer is funding your project. You should never be the bank. You should never be funding the project. It's just pure stupidity. If you're doing that, stop. Well, Brad, people don't want to pay it. Yeah, they will. That's just your limiting belief. Hundreds and hundreds of people do this. I did it with hundreds of clients. You may get some pushback. I remember one time I had a job that was like $65,000 or I think it was like $45,000 initially. And I wanted to collect 50% down, which was like, you know, $22,000 or whatever. And the client said, and I've already done work for them before. He's like, I don't know if I feel comfortable paying that much money up front. And I said, yeah, I hear you. Totally hear you. I understand. But here's the thing. I've been in business for, you know,10 years. I've never had a negative review. And if I was, you know, if I was a shady contractor who didn't have integrity. I wouldn't have lasted this long. Right. Basically saying I'm an upstanding person. And the guy said, well, that's a good point. Yeah. Okay. And that's all it took. It was just me saying, Hey, I've been in business this long. I wouldn't have lasted this long. If I was a crook, I wouldn't have, you know,125 reviews if I was a crook. And he's like, okay, I understand. And that was the end of it. That was the only time I ever had someone push back on collecting. 40,50% deposit. Now I collected a 40%. I did a 40,20, sorry,40,30,20,10 is my payment schedule. 10% is the final. It's all profit. If you have a client at the end that gets stupid and doesn't want to pay you or, you know, once all these things fixed, you have the ability to walk away from the job. Yes, you're going to lose the 10%, you know, maybe you may lose the 10%, but that's all profit. There's nothing worse than getting to the end of the job and you have to owe people money and they don't pay you. That's the worst feeling in the world. So you avoid that by setting up your payroll and then having a customer deposit account on the back end. So your payment schedule keeps you from getting behind on your payments. The customer deposit account makes sure you don't spend that money before you need it. So I may have, at any given time, I might have $100,000 sitting in the customer deposit account. I may have two or three jobs going on at different stages. As I need the money, I would take the money out. Now, I got to the point to where I kept so much cash in the account that I wouldn't actually take anything out of the deposit account until the job was done. I would collect payments along the way. I would put them into the deposit account as I went, but then I just wouldn't transfer the money over until the job was done because I had enough cash in the bank to be able to fund that stuff. Although I have the money, I'm just not transferring it. Right now, sometimes I would have to transfer it if money got a little bit low, but I'm just saying like, if you have a cash rich business, you can, you have the money there. You just don't dip into it until the job's over. That's kind of you and what you want to do, but you don't spend the money until you get a bill. Right. I got to order cabinets for this job. Uh, and if I have an account, usually there's 30 day terms, but if I want to pay up front, you know, if I want to pay on a credit card, debit card, cause I don't want to have an account. I go to the cabinet company and I order the cabinets. I say, hey, it's going to be $15,000 for the cabinets. Great. I go to my bank account on my phone, on a desktop, pewter, whatever, and I just transfer $15,000 out of the customer deposit account into the operating account. And then I pay that bill immediately. That's how you do that, right? If you have accounts, which I did, I use the accounts. I'm going to use somebody else's money, not mine. then I would just, again, I would keep that 20K in that account. And then 30 days later, I get the bill for the $15,000 cabinets and I do the same thing. I just go in, transfer it, pay the bill. The only difference is doing it ahead of time versus at the end. But the customer deposit account saved so much headache because it was money that's not mine. That's how I viewed it. It's not my money. Sometimes you collect the deposit and you don't start the job for three to six months. That's definitely not my money. It's easy. If you put that money into the account, a month later, two months later, you've forgotten about it and you spend it all. Then comes three months later, you start the job. You got to pay 15K. Oh, crap. I don't have any money in my account. So if you do the customer deposit account, you don't get to touch that money. There's been times where I had money in that account. Let's say, you know, $10,000 in deposits. And I was low on cash for whatever reason, timing of things, you know, and I had to pay bills, right? Like I had to pay a... say a $5,000 bill and I only had like 4K in my account, but I had 10K sitting in the customer deposit account, I didn't touch that. I don't get to touch that money unless it's for that job because it's not my money. You have to have discipline here. I don't care if you have $0 in your OPEX account and you have $50,000 in your customer deposit account. If you haven't done anything for that job, you don't get to use that money. That's what discipline looks like, by the way. You don't rob Peter to pay Paul. All you're doing is kicking the can down the road. All right. So that's the first tip is the bank accounts. If all your money sits in one pile, eventually you'll spend money that was never meant to be spent. And that's what happens for a ton of you. I know this. You should be shaking your head. Yes, because I know it applies to you. Tip number two, stay lean as long as possible. Okay. Stay lean as long as possible. You don't need to go buy the new lifted truck and wheels and tires because you think you've made it. You sold one big job and you got a big payday. Now you think you've made it and you got to show everybody how awesome you are. Don't do that. Even personally, stay lean. Live below your means. Within your business, live below your means. Only broke people try to impress others by looking like they're rich. Only broke people. Try to impress others by looking like they're rich. Rich people try to look broke because they don't want to be sued, for one, but they know the glitz and the glam and all that stuff doesn't matter. They don't care about that. It's only the people that are broke that want to look rich to go out and spend their money before they should, and then they get stuck with a $1,500 a month truck payment, or they go buy a bunch of equipment before they sell any work. If you're starting a business and you listen to this podcast, you don't need to go out and spend $150,000 on a truck and a skid steer in order to start your landscaping business. That's stupid. You go out and you sell a half a million dollars worth of work and you rent equipment until you start making money consistently and then you can go buy your piece of equipment. You don't go and spend the money and hope that the work comes. You sell the jobs first and then you have money, right? Like if I had to go to a bank to get a loan and I said, hey, banker, I'm going to start a new job. I need $150,000 so I can buy a truck trailer and a skid steer. And the banker's going to be like, okay, what do you have for collateral? I don't have anything. I'm just starting out. Okay, well, unfortunately, we can't really help you. However, if you have $500,000 worth of jobs sold with, you know, part of that money collected, let's say you have $100,000 total for all the jobs sold in the bank in your customer deposit account, and you go to the bank, hey, banker, I want to borrow money so I can do these jobs. What do you have? Well, I have $500,000 in sold contracts, and I have $100,000 in my bank account. They're going to be like, okay, no problem. Here's your loan. Why? Because you have money to back that up. In other words, you have the contracts to back it up, and you have cash to back it up. Right. That's, it's just so much easier guys. Too many people want to go borrow money and think that all this money is going to help them be successful. It's not, it's actually going to enable you to have a, uh, to run a crappier business. It's going to enable you to be, to suck at running your business because you have a large pool that you can, you know, pay, pay for mistakes, but eventually you run out of money and you don't have enough income and then you're screwed. Right? So most companies that start out of a garage with a small dollar amount and then grow their business are more successful than if you start a business with 50K,100K or whatever, because you'll just burn through it. So that's tip number two, stay lean as long as possible. Don't buy trucks. Don't get an office space. You don't need to hire employees and pay for all that crap right now. You don't need a bunch of extra subscriptions just in case. You don't need to over hire, hire a salesperson or hire a project manager. Because you don't really want to do it. If you don't have the workflow, like if you're not working 60 hours a week doing that task, you're not ready per se to hire a project manager. If you just don't like doing sales and you want to hire a salesperson, that's not a good reason. It's not a good reason at all. You shouldn't hire salespeople until you're ready to scale. Not because you don't want to do something. So stuff like that, making stupid decisions to try and... you know, eliminate things that you're doing or don't want to do or trying to impress people or thinking because you sold one job that you're now a hot shot and know how to do it. When you've had like six months of selling, you know, high value, high profit jobs, then you can say maybe you figure something out and you have a history of consistency of making so much money that now you can go out and raise some of your, you know, operating expenses. But one job, one month is not enough. There's no history there. Anybody can get lucky. Anybody can sell a big job and get lucky because their cousin is on the board or whatever. That doesn't mean you're good at what you're doing. You're not going to be able to repeat it. When you have a history of repeatedly being able to generate the revenue and income, then you have a good, valid reason to go and invest in your business. One last thing for number two is also lean businesses survive downturns. So when stuff goes south, it's easier to survive when you're lean than you have an overhead, over bloated overhead. A lot of contractors don't scale profitably. They scale expenses. By the way, I've said this before. Growing is when you scale expenses to increase your size. Scaling is when you increase your profits, not your size. Now, obviously, when you scale, you may hire more people. But you already have the plan and the profit and the financial, you know, money backing, all that in place. Like you have a financial stability. It's what I'm looking for, financial stability. That, you know, for every truck you buy, it's going to generate $200,000 in revenue and, you know, $100,000 in gross profit. Like when you scale, you already have the math figured out. Scaling is not, I'm going to go out and buy a bunch of trucks and hire a bunch of people so that, I can make more money. That's not scaling, guys. Too many of you get this wrong. That's growing. Growing is you're growing your size and your expenses. Scaling is I figured it all out. I have a profitable business where I'm at right now, and now I want to scale the profitability. So I'm now adding vehicles, making an X amount of money. Adding vehicles, making an X amount of money. That's scaling. Buying a bunch of shit is not scaling. Again, that's just stupidity, right? So you're not scaling your business. You're scaling your expenses. And by the way, revenue, just because you scale your expenses and you make more revenue, again, does not make you profitable. Hey, just a quick time out from the show.