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    Hammer & Grind : Built For Contractors
    Episode•September 7, 2026•35 min

    EP287: Scope Creep Solutions: How Contractors Can Reduce Free Work & Boost Profit

    Contractors face significant profit leaks due to scope creep. This episode breaks down practical solutions including clear change order processes, tracking free work, and managing client expectations to boost your bottom line. In this episode, Brad talks about: What scope creep is and how it happens The hidden costs associated with extra work Strategies to prevent scope creep without alienating your customers The importance of having a clear change order process Tips for training your team to handle customer requests effectively Links to resources Join our new community on Skool: https://www.contractorprofitblueprint.skool.com Get your free ebook and labor burden worksheet for the first 100 sign-ups! Grab my free job costing worksheet and start job costing every job right away. https://go.hammercrm.com/widget/form/4Bws6E9GGX0RZPoED1bn Want to go deeper? Check out the Contractor Profit Blueprint: https://www.thecontractorprofitblueprint.com/ Book a strategy call with Brad: https://hammerandgrind.com/qualification-website Enjoying the podcast? Visit our website at https://www.hammerandgrindpodcast.com for the latest episodes, resources, and more. Have a question, story, or topic you'd like us to cover? Leave us a message here: https://www.hammerandgrindpodcast.com/voicemail. We'd love to hear from you, and your message could be featured on a future episode! Help us get the word out to other contractors by leaving us a review or sharing our podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    0:02

    When the project's completely done and you've done way more work than what you were actually paid for, it's probably scope for you. Hey, welcome back to the show. I'm your host, Brad Hebner, and I'm a licensed general contractor, author of the Contract Your Profit Blueprint, and business coach to contractors who are overwhelmed and are looking to boost their profits and regain their freedom. What's the most expensive question your customers can ask you? Any ideas? It's, hey, while you're here, can you fill in the blank? It sounds harmless. I know, right? But that question is how contractors end up giving away thousands of dollars in labor and materials every single year. One little favor turns into another. Five minutes turns into 30. Your guys start saying yes to things that were never in the estimate. And by the time the job is finished, you've done a whole lot more work. but you're still getting paid the exact same amount. That is called scope creep. And today we're going to talk about why it happens, what it's actually costing you, and how to stop working for free without nickel and diming your customers. So what is scope creep? I know I just mentioned in the intro that, you know, it's, hey, while you're here, Brad, can you do this for me? But that's not the only thing that can be scope creep. Sometimes it can be, words are tough sometimes, Sometimes it can be because you didn't do enough detailed scope in your actual estimate. You didn't actually detail it out enough. You were kind of vague in what was all included. And then you get into situations where the customer was like, well, I thought that was included, Brad. I've talked about before where we would do a door and we didn't include caulking on the interior because that's the painter's job. And, you know, we would sell the job and they were under the impression that it include caulking everything. And even though I knew, personally, that that's not included because I didn't figure it in there. They thought it was included. So not having a very detailed scope of work or not including the entire scope of what's going to be done can also cause scope creep because then you have those conversations later on about, well, I thought that was included or I didn't know that that wasn't included or, you know, I thought this was going to be this or even the ones that are like, well, we don't care, Brad, just go and pick whatever you think is going to be best. You pick whatever color you like. We really don't care. Just pick some kind of tan color. We don't care. So you go and pick the tan color. You come back. Hey, we don't like that. Right. We actually don't like that one. Those kind of things all add up to scope creep. It can also include things like when you're there on the job and you just you as the owner, you just notice something and you're like, hey, guys, just take care of it. It's not worth it. You know, it's going to take you five minutes. Just go ahead and take care of it. We don't need to do a change order. It's going to slow everything down. We need to get this job done. We're already behind schedule, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We use all these different justifications as to why we're just going to include this little thing. The problem is it's not death by, you know, one single cut. It's death by a thousand cuts, right? So all these little bitty things that we do add up and at the end of the job and the bigger the job, the greater the impact. It scales, right? This scope creep scales depending on how big the job is. And so that's why we have to make sure we document every single aspect of it. It's only going to take five minutes. This is a trap. Okay. This is a trap. Five minutes doesn't feel like it's worth documenting. It doesn't feel like it's worth doing a change order. It doesn't feel like, you know, it's worth the value of doing that. You don't want to quote nickel and dime your customer. So you just say, Hey, just take care of it. Right. Just get it done. Just take care of it. So when the customer asks your you or your employees for something, here's what has to happen. Your guy has to stop what he's doing. He has to talk to the customer. He has to figure out what they want. He has to get materials or tools. Potentially, he has to do the work. He has to clean it up and then he has to get back to what he was doing before. So that little five minute job may actually be a 20 minute job or 30 minute job, depending on what all had to happen. And then we won't even get into task switching where you're right in the middle of doing something critical and then they'd interrupt you and then you got to go do that and you come back and then it takes you like 15,20 minutes just to figure out where you left off because there's no clear delineation of your thought process there. So this five minute favor just turns into 20,30 minutes. And then if you remember from our previous episode of knowing our true labor burden, we may be paying our guy 30 bucks an hour, but he's really costing us. 40,45, maybe 50 bucks an hour, depending on what all is included. And so you take that 30 minutes task, right? Times the 30,40,50 bucks an hour, whatever it is, that's going to cost you that plus you have to factor in any overhead or profit. So really that half hour job turns into a full hour or it turns into a hundred dollars. It could cost you a hundred dollars. It can cost you $150 just to do that little job. and take care of it for the customer. You have to know what the true cost is of doing these things. It's never, ever, ever as little as you think it is. And I mentioned before in a previous episode that we would do a lot of things for the customer, usually like fix their front door if the knob was loose or wasn't closing right. And most of the time, those would be like true 10-minute tasks. Sometimes they would turn into 30 minutes, but a lot of times it's like tighten the screw. right? Or adjust the screw, literally takes five,10 minutes. That's different when you're being intentional. When you're trying to be intentional about certain things in your business where you can provide some value, that's a different scenario than whenever it's just happening during the job. And your employees are taking it upon themselves to do these things. So your employees shouldn't be making financial decisions for your business when it comes to change orders. So your lead guy is like, hey, just take care of it. Right? Like you sold the job, you're the owner or you have a salesperson, you sold the job. The job is for $80,000. You give it to your lead guy or your project manager. They're doing the work and then they take it upon themselves to be like, oh, it's not a big deal. Let's take care of the customer. You're preaching all the time about customer service and taking care of your customers. And so they just take it upon themselves to do a bunch of little things and you're not even aware of it. So the job's over, you go back, you job costs. You're like, hey, why is your labor hours so high? Why are we over? Or why did our overhead or production rate come in lower? All of these things can simply because your employees are making this decision without you even realizing it. So you have to explain to your employees and you have to have a policy in place of like, hey, don't do a single extra thing without X. Here's the parameters. Now, again, we're not trying to nickel and dime our customers. If it's truly, truly a five minute task, am I going to be upset if my, one of my employees do, does that probably not. Right. And if I bid the job correctly in the first place, I'm not going to worry too much because I have enough profit in there to even cover a bunch of these things. And I'll get into how to, how to plan for some of these things here in just a minute. So they don't need to know how to, they don't, they shouldn't be making the financial decisions for you. They don't necessarily know what was sold. what the margin is, whether you're already over labor or not, what you promise the customer, whether another trade needs to be involved in it, and what liability they're creating. Sometimes that little five-minute task can open you up to a huge liability issue, right? Hey, while you're here, would you mind swapping out this electrical outlet that is broken or whatever? We're not replacing it. I mean, we're not installing new and we're just taking the old one out and putting the new one in. Your guy thinks he's capable of it. He goes in there, swaps out the receptacle, takes five minutes. A month later, it burns the house down. There's so much more to just the five-minute task. So you have to train your employees that they have to make sure they ask whoever is in charge of that, whether it's a project manager or you, right? And here's the response that you and everyone else should be when the customer comes and says, hey, would you mind doing this? While you're here, can you do this? It's a simple response. Absolutely. Let me get with the office. Let me get with the PM. Let me get with Brad. Let me get with the boss. Let me get with the owner. And we'll figure out what it takes to get that done for you. You're ending any favors right there. You just say, absolutely. We can take care of that. Let me get you a price. That's it. Super simple. You don't have to say no. You don't have to argue. You just put the request in the process and let the process take care of it. It's out of the employee's hand at that moment. And you have to train your employees to follow that process, right? Now, a lot of times the owner, us, we're just as guilty. A lot of times because we're the owner, we can make ad hoc decisions. We can make decisions on the go that go against certain policies or procedures because we're the owner. We don't have to answer anyone. We can just automatically, one day we're in a good mood and we're like, yeah, we'll just take care of that for you. Or the same scenario for another customer, you're in a bad mood. You're like, no, we're not going to do that. Let me get you a price. So you can, as the owner, your emotional swings can determine things and you have to make sure you follow your own process or you're just teaching your team that it's not really a process. It's just a preference. In previous episodes, I talked about your sacred process. If you have, if you don't, if you don't follow your own process, then it's not an actual process. It's just a preference and preferences change like the wind do. You know, you just one day you think one way, the next day you're doing something completely different. You can't do that. You got to develop the process and then follow it to a T and make sure everyone else is following it as well. Right? So the owner is just as guilty, right? So don't just blame the employees all the time. Contractors do this constantly. What, what the customer to like us, the people pleasers out there, we want to, we want them to like us. We don't want to seem petty, right? We don't want to just charge them for everything. We don't want to nickel and dime them. It's not worth charging them. It's just going to take a few minutes. It ain't worth it. They're afraid they're going to leave a bad review. They're afraid they're going to leave a bad review. I know for a fact that that single thing haunts a lot of you guys. And you're worried to death about a bad review. They think charging for changes makes them look greedy. Man, it's just a five minutes thing. You can't do that for me. Man, you're greedy, right? They feel awkward about talking about money. Money's not awkward. You're making it awkward. Money is an inanimate object that has no emotions or feelings. You're the one making it awkward. And they also want to over-deliver, you know, under-promise, over-deliver kind of thing. And again, there are always, you know, there's always exceptions to everything. But for the most part, we want to make sure we have a very clear process of how we handle change orders and that our team knows how to do that as well. All right. So back to, you know, not nickeling and diming your customers because you don't have to nickel and dime them. This is an objection you're probably going to get or create yourself in your own head. It's going to live there rent free, right? I don't want to change order somebody for every little thing. That's good. So don't do that. Like don't change order them for every little thing. Now, one thing I was talking about earlier that I was going to mention, whenever we first started doing bathroom remodels, and this was just experience, you know, we would yank the toilet and there's always like a little bit of, you know, rot. mold or whatever around the ring because a lot of times the rings fail. And we would go to the customer like, hey, bad news. We pulled the toilet in the floor and there's some wood rot. It's going to be $300. It's going to be $500 to fix the subfloor, blah, blah, blah. In the beginning, we would go to them with a change order. And it was fine. They understood. They would pay it. But then later on, there would be another change order for something else. And then later on, there was another change order. Whether it was us finding things or them making actual changes. You start to get to this where it's like everything's a change order. Change order, change order, change order, change order, right? All the time. I don't know why, but that song Gucci Gang popped in my head when I was. Gucci Gang, Gucci. All right, never mind. So you have these change orders and it starts to seem like you're nickel and dime them. So what I did is I started incorporating like a slush fund, if you will, into my estimates. Like I knew probably 80% of the time we're going to have to fix the toilet. the subfloor around the toilet, it's going to be rotten in some capacity. So I would just automatically, you know, throw 300 bucks at it or whatever. Or there was other things that I knew we were going to run into and I would add extra money. So on like a 30, $40,000 job, you know, I may have a thousand,1500, $2,000 extra just to cover the, like the slush fund. So that whenever I go and pull up the toilet and sure enough, we got to fix the floor. takes just a few hours or whatever to do it, that kind of is subtracted from that like $2,000 slash fund. And essentially what I would do, I would use that as like a credit. And this is only for things that I was like pre-planning would happen. But I would use that as kind of like a credit. So if it was $2,000, we had a $300 change order, I would just take $300 out of that $2,000 and now they have $1,700 left. The reason I did that is so I didn't have to go to the customer with so many change orders. I could cover these, right? Now, if I open up a wall, termite damage, you know, it's going to be $5,000 to fix it. Well, I could use some of that $2,000 and tell them like, hey, good news, bad news. Bad news, there's termite damage. Good news, we always have a little bit of extra. So, you know, it's going to cost $5,000, but we actually had $2,000 in reserve because we come across this. So it's only going to cost you $3,000. You could do that. You could just charge them the full 5,000, keep that 2,000 in reserve for future things. There's lots of different ways that you could do this. It doesn't really matter which way you pick. You just need to pick one, right? And so here's some options you can do. You don't have to charge them for like $37 worth of work. So you can like tell them like, hey, we're just going to have like a little tally, like a bar tally, right? We're just going to have a tab where we're going to tally up our hourly fixes. And you document this. You don't leave it loose and open-ended. But you say, look, we always run across little things. You know, we're just going to charge you an hourly rate of whatever it is,50 bucks an hour,100 bucks an hour, whatever. And we'll just kind of tally it up and we'll keep you informed along the way. But we'll just keep that tallied up so we don't have to keep doing change orders. You could do that. I'm not a fan of it, but you could do that. You could have a minimum change order where it's just like anytime there's a change order, it's 250 bucks or $500 or whatever. You could have a minimum. You can, like I said, track the small extras and then bundle them together into one change order. You could build the allowance for minor incidentals, which is what I was just telling you. You can give PMs a defined discretionary amount. Hey, guys, if it's under 500 bucks, take care of it. You have $500 discretionary fund. Do whatever it takes just to make it happen. Right. Or intentionally comp something when it creates goodwill. Again, intentional, doing something intentionally like the doors that you can decide to do that. Right? So here's the important part. Like I just said, you need to have a rule. So don't let every employee decide independently of which way they're going to do it or which one. You need to have a specific policy on how you handle extra things. And it's not that complicated, guys. Open up your Google Docs and type in there a list like how to handle change orders. Here's the change order policy. Right. Have AI do it for you. You can literally create this policy in like less than five minutes. I mean, literally less than five minutes. Don't sit there and wait on this. So the thing to keep in mind is that scope creep is not always the customer's fault. I know I opened the segment with, you know, while you're here, can you do this? That's because that's the most common thing that we experience. But it's not always the customer's fault. And you can't blame them. You can't blame a customer for asking you to do something while you're there. That's dumb. If you get all butthurt and egotistical because they asked that question, you got some serious problems you need to go talk to a therapist about. They can ask you whatever they want. They can ask for a cash discount. They can ask you and break down the line item pricing. They can ask whatever they want. And if you get upset because customers ask you things, you probably shouldn't own a business. And seriously, like. There's nothing wrong with people asking you things. You just need to know how to handle it. And the people that don't know how to handle it, the people pleasers of the world, you're the ones that get screwed because you're doing it. You will do anything, anything in your power to avoid conflict. But the problem is, is that it's not conflict. You've imagined it in your head. That if you say, hey, no problem, let me get you a price, you think it's creating conflict, so you avoid it. In reality, it's not creating conflict. It's just an actual conversation. So most of the stuff that lives rent-free in your head is your own fault.

    17:15

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    18:08

    Now let's get back to the show. And I see, I know this because I work with a lot of contractors and we have to work through this and it always creeps back up. I can tell you right now, I have a, one of my clients is dealing with this right now. The customer is refusing to make payment. Because of some things that weren't really his fault, but that happened on the job site. And they feel like, you know, they should get more things or it should be better or whatever. And my client is like wanting to try and, you know, make them at peace, like try to do extra things. And you just can't do that. Also, once you give one time, then you've opened the door. So don't give one time. So scope creep is, like I said, it's not always a customer's fault. So sometimes you created the scope creep. Like I was mentioning earlier, you have a bad estimate, you have vague scope, you have poor drawings, you have missing selections, you have sales or sales team promised something other than what was put in the estimate. This happens very, a lot whenever you have a sales team and like an estimating team and a project management team, like you have three people in this process that can change. or promise or forget things in that, right? So it's very important that like your sales team is documenting everything, is talking to the estimator, is talking to the project manager if you have those things, those jobs, that means, sorry, those positions. This is really important because, you know, it's like the game of what, telephone? You know, where you have a string or whatnot, that's a different thing. Where you tell somebody one thing, And you go down the line and by the end of the line, they're repeating something completely different than what the first person told them. That happens if you don't have a very good process for documenting for everything you do. So sales promised something, production interpreted it differently. It says clear as day on their demo bathtub and they interpret it totally different, right? Like you put in there, like take out the tub, they interpret it like take out the entire walls and everything around the tub. Maybe there was a platform, maybe it was a whirlpool and the tub is sitting in a platform and you're going to replace it with another platform tub that fits in there. They put on their demo tub and they interpret it as like the entire thing and platform. So what do they do? They tear everything out and you show up and you're like, where's the platform? What do you mean? It said demo the tub, right? That happens all the time. Specific is terrific, guys. Specific is terrific, especially when you're doing handoffs. A lot of you guys that are growing don't think about this because you're the one doing the sales, you're the one doing the estimate, you're the one doing the project management, and sometimes you're the one swinging the hammer. So it lives in your brain. It doesn't have to leave your brain and go to three other people. This is where you get trapped. As you grow, you have to start having processes that people follow. It requires more effort, requires more time, requires more detail. The way I interpret things, the way I write, the way I think is different than the way the project manager thinks. The way the salesperson thinks about stuff is different than the way the estimator thinks about stuff. So you have to make sure everyone's on the same page. You have to have a really detailed process for handoffs and how you do that. And then also, like I said, a customer legitimately thought something was included, which does happen too. And that's not always necessarily a change order. Like these things are not necessarily change orders. That could be just an estimating or processing problem, right? The way you do it, like I said, information changes hands, things get missed. That's not a customer problem. That's an internal process problem, okay? So anytime you're doing estimates, your scope, your scope of work is your first line of defense. So I've said this before, very detailed scope of work, lump sum pricing, right? One price. very detailed of what they're getting. So your scope should clearly define what you're doing, what you're not doing, what are the materials and selections, what are the quantities, what are the allowances, what are the assumptions, what are the exclusions, what are the inclusions, what are the customer's responsibilities, and what happens if something changes. You should actually have in your estimate what your change order process is. Because it is a process and it's probably going to happen. So the more ambiguity that you give to everyone, the more arguments you're going to have during production. So the more vague you are in the beginning, the more problems you're going to have at the end. This right here is a prime example of how you're the arsonist in your business, especially if you're doing the sales. You're the arsonist. You go out, you take measurements, you talk to the customer, you don't write anything down. You try to go off memory. You go back, you put the estimate together. You're in a hurry. So you do it super vague scope of work. You send it over, right? Customer approves it. You start the job, realize, oh crap, I forgot to put, you know, I forgot to add two by fours in there. Stupid me. I just got in a hurry and I forgot to add them. Well, that's not a change order. That's your fault. Don't go to the customer. Hey customer, you got to pay more because I didn't add them in there. No, that's your fault, right? You messed up. So you were the arsonist. In that scenario, you didn't have very clear scope of work and your guys demoed out the tub and the surround, right? That's your fault. You were the arsonist. You created that or the salesperson or whoever it is. That's how you create fires in your business. So if you can't clearly identify what's included, it's going to be very difficult to identify what's extra. If you can't identify what's included in your, in your estimate or your scope, it's going to be very difficult to identify what is extra and what's not. Cause you can think in your head, Oh, I, you know, I, I've, I was including a paint, you know, you put on there paint, paint the walls. And in your mind, you're like, Oh yeah, well, obviously, you know, it's, it's common sense, Brad, of course we're including the paint. So you show up, right. And then maybe the customer already bought paint because they didn't know or vice versa. Like you, it isn't saying the estimate that we're including the paint. The customer always pays for the paint. Now that's an extra $300 for paint. Like all that stuff happens all the time. It's funny saying it because I've, I've done this and I know it happens all the time. And then people are like, I don't understand. I don't know where all my money goes. It's right in front of your face. If you would just job cost your job, it would tell you job cost your jobs. It will tell you where these profit leaks are every time. Here we go. Have a change order process. All right. You got to keep it simple. And when something changes, this is the most important thing. When you have a change order, you have to stop work. You have to fill out the change order. You have to get approval. And I highly recommend that when you're doing change orders, you get payment, full payment for that change order right then. So if you have a thousand dollar change order, you write up the change order. Customer signs it, and then you collect the full $1,000 right then. Don't add it to the end. Collect it right then. Are they exceptions? Sure. Some major thing, it's going to be a $20,000 change order. Of course, we're not probably going to collect $20,000 right then, but you can collect some kind of deposit. But anything that's under like five grand, you should be collecting that change order amount right then. Once it's approved, agreed upon, approved, signed, and paid, then you can continue the work. But Brad, if I stop work, I'm going to lose money. Not if you include it into your change order, right? If you open up a wall and there's termite damage and you can't go forward and you're going to miss out on a day because maybe you can't do it or maybe you got to hire a termite company to come out and treat it first because it's active. Whatever the situation is, you put that in your change order. You know, termite companies not going to get out there for two days. There's really nothing else we can do until they're done. Maybe you pull off. Maybe you can't. There's nothing else. You could put that in your change order. Lost work. I'm not going to lie on that. but I may factor in, you know, four hours of lost work. That's not your fault. That's not your fault there was termite damage and that there's live termites. That's the customer's problem. Again, we're not nickeling, diming. Why would we assume all of the costs whenever it's things that we're out of control, out of our control? So make sure you define it, give the price, approve the document, you know, then produce the work, right? It's very important. Stop work, do the change order. Now with things. software like job tread or others, you can just literally do electronic change order right there, send it to the customer, text it to the customer, have them sign off of it. You can have everything approved within like three minutes, right? But if you're old school and you're like, no, Brad, I'll do everything with a stone and, you know, etch it onto a stone. Well, then you're going to have to stop work, leave your job site, go meet the customer or do whatever else you got to do. And then, yeah, it's going to cost you a bunch more time and money. So this is one of those places where you can use technology to your advantage. Here's another thing you can do is just track the free work that you've done. Even if you're not going to do a change order and you're just going to include it, track it. Do a little exercise where you track how much free work you've done on one job. And you can even go to your team and like, listen. We're going to be changing a couple of things with change orders. But for right now, all I want you to do is anytime you do anything extra, I don't care if it's just, if you go to the curb, you know, you're walking out to the truck and on the way back, you grab the trash can and pull it back up to the door. I want you to write it down. Now that doesn't mean that you're going to charge a customer for that. I'm just, you want to like write down anything extra you're doing. One, it's going to tell you change orders too. It's also going to tell you where you guys are wasting time. Like maybe it's not a change order. Maybe it's just dumb crap that. they had to do because you didn't estimate something correctly. So you need to track it regardless if they, if you do a change order and then at the end of the job, job costs, it, see how much of that affected it. Okay. So at the end of the project. You should know what the original contract amount was for, what the paid change orders were, what the completed, or I'm sorry, the comp changes were. Like if you comp something, you did something for 10 minutes, you should put a dollar amount to that. Hey,10 minutes, X amount of dollars, you comped it. Unplanned labor, unplanned materials, actual gross profit. And what you may discover is that like, hey, you're giving away $2,000 on a kitchen remodel on average. If you do this over multiple jobs, you might find out like, hey, man, the last five jobs that we did. You know, we average giving away $1,500 for miscellaneous crap. Well, if that's your average, then just add $1,500 to your total and that should cover it. You know, we can get super granular and be like, oh, I'm going to track every penny. I'm not too worried about pennies, right? Unless there's a thousand pennies, you know, unless there's 10,000 pennies, I might be concerned. This isn't about like nickel and diamond and having complete control of your entire business and knowing every single aspect. That's not what this is about. This is about plugging the hose, the profit leaks in your business. And there's lots of them. So, you know. If I can reduce churn on my profit leaving, you know, let's say over the course of a year, $40,000 is going out the door to free change orders. If I can reduce that to like $5,000, I'm pretty happy, right? I mean, I would be pretty happy with that reduction. If I can get it down to like only losing $1,000, I'm really happy. The thing is, this stuff's costing you way more than what you think. You also have to remember that the customer is not your enemy, right? I just told you that earlier, like they're not the enemy. They're just your business partner in this interaction. So it's not their responsibility. This is very important. This is probably the most important thing I can tell you. It is not your customer's responsibility to protect your profits. It's not your customer's responsibility to protect your profit, nor is it their responsibility to even care about your profit. It's not. I know like, well, they're just, no, they're just humans. Why would they care about that? That's your job. You're supposed to know your profit. You're supposed to factor all that in, right? It's not their responsibility to protect your profits. All right. How do we respond? Absolutely. We can do that. Let me get you a price for it real quick. Absolutely. We can do that. Let me check with the boss. See how much it's going to cost. I'm not sure if we can do that. Let me check with the project manager and see if we have time on the schedule for that. Well, any of those are acceptable, but it's like, yes, we can do it. Or, you know, maybe you can't do it, but yes, we can do it. Let me get you a price. Let me check. It's never, yeah, we can take care of that for you. No problem. Okay. Being professional. Doesn't mean doing whatever the customer asks. You're not the customer's employee. I've talked about this before, you know, being a business owner versus being an employee. Stop being an employee in your own business. Act like a professional. Professional doesn't mean doing whatever the customer asks. It means having a process for handling everything that happens in your business. That's what professional means. If you're in a situation in a job and you're like scratching your head, I don't know. I don't know, customer. I really don't know how to handle this. It's never happened before. I just don't know how to handle it. That's not a good look. Even if you truly don't know how to handle it, I'm not going to tell the customer, I don't know how to handle it. I might say, you know, this is a first for me. Let me put some thought behind it and figure out how we can make it happen or how we can fix it. There's lots of ways you can attack stuff like that. I know it's a little tangent, but all right. So here's the assignment for you guys. Go back to the last five completed jobs. Like I mentioned, what work did you perform that was not in the original? And what did you charge for? Like maybe some of it you charged for, some of it you didn't. How many labor hours did it consume extra? What materials did we give away? Hey, I got a bunch of casing in the shop. Customer A already paid for it. No big deal. Giving it to customer B. That's given away. Even though it's already paid for, you're still giving it away. Did employees approve extras? Did I personally give away anything? Was the extra actually scope creep or was it in our original scope? But it wasn't included, like it wasn't written, right? And what would those extras have sold for? So then calculate how much free work did you actually perform? And you know, you might, you might not like the answer, which is a good wake up, but that's what we're trying to figure out, right? We're always trying to solve problems in our business, moving towards a better business, a better future. So don't just sleep on this stuff, guys. This is important stuff. It may not seem like it's a big deal. I'm going to guess that most of you are not aware how much scope creep affects your, you may know that a scope creep, but I'm going to guess that you, most of you do not know how much. Like it's way worse than what you think it is. And that could be where all of your profits are going at the end of the year. It could very well be just in that one thing. So make sure you do this. Okay. So we started this series with where did your profit go? We've been doing kind of this follow-up series here. And the answer usually isn't one giant catastrophic thing. It's the little leaks, the profit leaks, right? And so that's what we're trying to plug. All these little profit leaks. So you sold the job wrong. You missed costs in the estimate. You didn't know what your employees actually cost you, your labor burden. And then once production started, you gave away labor and materials and free work. And then here's a few hundred dollars here, a couple hundred dollars there, a couple hours later, you missed costs, one free extra, all this stuff. Nothing by itself seems like it's a big deal. But then once you add it up and then you multiply that across all the jobs you do throughout the year, that is how a million dollar contractor. at the end of the year can be like, where's all my profit? I don't understand. I'm doing a million dollars and I have no money left over. It's probably in one of these things that we've covered. If you haven't listened to the other episodes in the series, I recommend you go back and listen to all of them because we break out each one of these. Make sure you go and listen to those. And then go and apply it to your business. You listening to me doesn't do anything if you don't actually go and apply it to your business. Like actually apply things to your business. You really shouldn't listen to another podcast. You really shouldn't read another book until you've applied what you heard. Because then all you're doing is collecting good ideas that you're never going to implement on. Don't be a good idea collector. Be a good implementer. And I'm telling you, you're businessful. Go take you places you never thought possible. All right, guys, that's the end. You know where you can find me. Good things I want to mention real quick. We've been working hard on creating a new community. And so we've actually just launched school. We moved everything over to the school platform. And you can get in there right now. There's just this week of recording. It should be next week of you listening to this. You can still get in there. So what we're doing is the first 100 people that sign up, and it's free. There's a free community part of it. The first 100 people that join, you'll get my ebook for free, absolutely free. And you're going to get my labor burden worksheet for free. I mentioned in a previous episode that you can buy it for $39. We're going to give that to you free as well, just for signing up, but it's only for the first 100 people. We got to migrate thousands of people over and it's probably going to take a minute, but we want to populate the community as fast as we can. We're going to be adding lots of extra things in there. The reason why we moved is because it gives us more opportunity, more flexibility, and more benefits, like going live and doing things like that in there that's easier to control. So make sure you jump in there. We'll put the link in the show notes so you can get there real easy. If not, I'm pretty sure it's school. com forward slash hammer. I'm sorry, forward slash contractor profit blueprint. That's the name of the group, contractor profit blueprint school. com forward slash contractor profit blueprint forward slash about. But I'm pretty sure you'll still get there if you leave the about off. Like I said, we'll put links in the show notes and hope to see you in there and start working on your business and building something amazing. Thanks for hanging out, guys. And remember, until next time, profit is not a dirty word.

    EP287: Scope Creep Solutions: How Contractors Can Reduce Free Work & Boost Profit

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